5 Things Clients Say and What They Really Mean

posted in Entrepreneurship, Freelancing, Logo Design, Project Management, Web Design

hdr-woolWorking with all types of clients on a daily basis can be as challenging as the actual design or development work that they are hiring you for. As a freelancer or a project manager, you are on the front-line and even though there shouldn’t be war between you and your client, it can sometimes feel like a battle!

Over the years, I have heard clients say a lot of things, and some of them are more clear in their message than others. For those starting out in the design industry, whether it is at a firm, or as a freelancer, this list of “5 things clients say and what they really mean” will surely help you to be educated when interacting with various types of clients.

1. “I designed it myself and just need you to ,,,”

99.9% of the time, if a client says this to you when they first inquire about your services, and ask you for a quote, they are really saying, “I know enough to have an opinion on YOUR profession, and I understand what it takes to do what you do. I don’t really think your skills are anything that hard to do, I just don’t have the time to do it, or I don’t have the little amount of time it probably takes to learn it. Knowing all this, I won’t be paying you that much to do this work as it shouldn’t take you that long at all…plus I’ve already done most of the work for you.”

2. “Can you do it for $xxx now, and when we become more successful, we will pay more?”

This is a pretty easy one. What they are really saying is “I probably have the money to pay you fully for what you quoted me, but I’m gona try and see if I can make a deal and get away with paying you less than what you want. After all, you seem like a bit of a pushover….I don’t plan on paying you more when/if we are more successful, because your work isn’t really the thing that made us successful so why would we feel obliged to pay you again months after the project is over?”

3. “I don’t agree to your contract terms. Please remove section 1a ,,,”

Red flag. This is like meeting a girl in a bar who talks about her daddy issues for 2 hours, and ends up crying in your arms while I drink as much whiskey as possible in the hope that I may secretly pass out with my eyes open, standing upright, but not able to hear her myopic whining…..wait, whoa….sorry, back to the article.

It is probably a fact that a large majority of freelancers / design firms have fair and honest contracts. There is rarely any reason for a client to question any of the terms in the average contract designers use, so when a client requests different terms and changes to the wording of the agreement, this is a serious warning sign. By rejecting some of your contract terms, depending on what they are, the client is really telling you, “I don’t really trust you or your company that much at all, so I am going to try and get this contract to be much more favorable for me before I sign it. Due to the fact that I don’t really trust you that much, this project is going to be a struggle to get completed, and while I will blame you for the delays, it will really be my fault because I continue to fight for the power in this project, and I really don’t want to give you any sort of control or power. Oh, and that 50% payment you want just to start the project…make it 25% and you’ve got a deal. I’ll pay the remainder when the project is done…in 2 years.”

4. “I’ve never hired a web designer so I’m not sure about this whole process, but you guys are the experts ,,,”

Lovely. Time to be happy and smile. What this client is really saying is “I honestly think you are the expert, and realize that I know absolutely nothing about the skills that you have. I can’t even imagine trying to do this myself. It would be like trying to build my own house, or telling the air conditioner technician how to fix the air condenser. I will be a good client to work with as I value your expertise and I will not request that many revisions during the project. I figure that you do this all day everyday and have a successful career out of it, so who am I to tell you to what to do.”

5. “We need a website built, my Husband’s cousin made one for him but he is in Detroit ,,,”

This is pretty similar to #1 above. Most likely, what this client is really saying is “My Husband’s cousin is a receptionist and she has Photoshop on her computer (or she is a granny from Tennessee), and she put the site together using Go Daddy’s “Website Tonight” service. We really like that website and want something similar.”. Unless her Husband’s cousin is an actual experienced web designer, chances are that the website she developed for her Uncle is pretty bad. If the client says she likes the site that was created, it pretty much means that she doesn’t understand the difference in quality in web design. As a result, she will probably choose the cheapest web design firm she finds. If she doesn’t understand the quality difference, why would she pay you $5,000 when someone down the road quoted her at $500? She will get a $500 website, and will be happy with it, until one day when she realizes that her site isn’t getting any leads and nobody ever compliments her on it.

Ok, how about a 6th! “Make the logo bigger”

When clients say this they actually simply, and sadly always just want their logo bigger! Perhaps you need to stock up on some “Make my logo bigger cream

Well, that’s it! “5 things clients say and what they really mean”. Most clients are good people, and great to work with, but there will always be those that make life a little more difficult, for whatever reason. With some education, and understanding, you can turn even the most high maintenance clients into decent, profitable ones. Client management is an underestimated element of being a designer or project manager, and the successful ones are able to handle each level of communication that they have with clients.

I would love to hear about any additional experiences you’ve had with clients, things you’ve learned about the different types of clients etc. Please discuss in the comments below and let’s start the conversation!

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  1. Lol! Spot on man! I’ve encountered ALL of the above and a whole lot more. I think many web designers/developers, particularly freelancers neglect the area of client management. As a result they either end up getting shafted, bad reviews or worse, tied up in an everlasting project.

  2. Lisa Manson says:

    I can tick off all five of those client interactions. Sometimes you have to pick your battles – it’s not always worth expending the energy to try and ‘educate’ the clients. You know it’s uncanny – these days if any of these ‘come up’ in the first conversation I am almost always completely booked out at the time ;)

  3. Martin says:

    How about; I’m going to have to put the project on hold for a while (and never get back to you) but I DEFINATELY still want you to do my website but something’s come up… Meaning – I didn’t realise that websites cost that much, and as it can’t be THAT hard and I don’t value my business, I’ll just make my own website with a copy of Paint and FrontPage and a bunch of crappy clip art?

    Rant over lol!

    Good post!

  4. I’ve come across all of them but I’m now employed by a group which already had sites done according to elements 1/3/5 of your list. In this case, the design had been done by an intern.

    When I got here they gave me my mission order it stated, improve SEO, visibility and leads without budget and if web design has to be done, an external company will be hired on bases… 1,3 and 5…. o_0

  5. Anne says:

    Great article – I particularly agree with your summary statement:

    “Client management is an underestimated element of being a designer or project manager, and the successful ones are able to handle each level of communication that they have with clients.”

    I’ve encountered each of the points you mentioned to some degree, with a few variations.

  6. Dan Wellman says:

    lol, good list :D

    I had a client asking for last minute copy revisions a week before launch; they asked me to change a paragraph, so I duly did, then a couple of days later, the same person asked me to change it again, and what they asked me to change to was exactly what it was originally!

  7. Excellent article!
    I’ve heard #2 a few weeks ago for the Nth time. The guy wanted me to build him a website for free and he would give me 20% of the site’s profits for the duration of two years once his business takes off (in a couple of years). :D

  8. @Marko Randjelovic, your comment is just so true. I don’t know how many proposals of that sort I rejected over the past 5 years. :-D

  9. brianyerkes says:

    Samuel, very true. It is one of those things that a lot of designers, freelancers especially never get a chance to really learn, and they gain the experience when it is too late, and they are stuck in a nightmare project. Thanks for your comment!

    Lisa, I agree, that’s probably something I should have finished with…that most of these red flags are reasons to not accept the project or take on the client.

    Martin, that just happened to my company recently. We were kind enough to give the potential two face to face meeting during the sales process, the second meeting was even after we gave them a price! And they they did the “Something came up, we have to put the project on hold.”

    It’s never fun to to go that length during a sale and not get the business. Two face to face meetings are quite an expense for my business when we are busy, and have deadlines etc.

    Ann, thanks for your comment!

    Dan, I just went through that exact same situation. Changing the same paragraph about 5 times. Especially when revising design work, it seems most of the time the client ends up reverting back to the first rendition, and is happy with it after making you go through several revisions.

    Marko, even though it is rare that this will turn out well, it can sometimes be a great deal. It’s basically like investing in a company, if you think the idea is a good one and the people behind the idea are decent business people, it can be a great opportunity.

    Cameron Johnson (a multi-millionaire entrepreneur) started an online business when he was a teenager and needed a programmer to create the site for him. He had no money to offer, but gave the programmer a stake in the business. Ended up being sold for millions, and both of them became very rich!

  10. Dave Sparks says:

    Number 2 is only ever viable if it’s a project you’ve got some personal interest vested in – otherwise it’s a no no.

    There’s a very interesting youtube video about clients I’m sure a lot of people have seen
    http://www.vendorclientvideo.com/

  11. More clients like #4 please!!

    I know I like to hire experts and leave everything to them. Now I just need to find the folks who feel the same way about a graphic designer!

    As a very rough estimate, Brian, what percentage of clients you work with are hassles and which are a pleasure to do business with? I sure hope there are more good clients out there than bad!

  12. Deborah Gray says:

    I’ve dealt with all of these, and I agree that it’s best to avoid these jobs altogether. I actually had a client write in changes (that made no sense) to my contract without talking to me first, sign it, and send it back for my signature.

  13. Pavlo says:

    I have heard most of these in my 18 years in the industry and I usually decline the work or quote a price that I know they won’t accept.

    I thought I’d add one and it’s from a former (University) client who asked me to make numerous text and layout changes in an annual report at the last minute. After I told her, “Yes, I can do this – but it will take around 5 additional hours and may affect your delivery time” she said, “Can’t you just press a magic button?”

    She was serious. This was in about 1995 – I think she thought that computers and software were so advanced as to be magical.

  14. Martin says:

    When a client says that they’d like their logo increased in size, they mean “I don’t feel confident in our branding so there for need to increase the logo size, I feel bigger is better”.

    A good response should be “let’s look at your branding, and that your branding is the entire site not just a logotype in the top right or left hand corner”.

  15. nice 5 tips :)
    here are 2 more bonus

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    6. “Let’s start the project right away and I’ll pay you the advance fee ( usually 50 % ) soon after that.

    This means that they will actually pay you the advance somewhere at the end of the project… and you’ll see the rest of the money a lot after that.
    If they pay you at all.

    7. “Let’s just start… and I’ll collect my materials soon ( photo and texts )”

    Actually – I’m not very organized, I’ll make you loose a couple of weeks, waiting for me and also there’s a big chance to try to use you as a copywriter for free.

  16. RaphaelDDL says:

    Lol those things happen all the time..

    another one to add at the post:
    Its something like #3…I made once but never more. I was inexperienced at that time..

    “We need that website for the end of the week, can you make it? Start doing and give us the quote later”

    Thoughts they are:
    #1 – ‘We don’t liked the quote. We will say we did not liked the layout and since we already saw what he made, we can ask someone with a smaller quote do to the job with something similar’

    #2 – ‘We wait until is done. Then we say we didn’t like the quote and will cancel. Since he got the job done already, he will reduce the quote until we accept. This way he will ‘fight’ to receive something..’

    Ps. Edit: Lol, me and Ralev posted at same time and similar things :P

    And btw, about Ralev’s #7, that means too:
    ‘I will make you loose time and then will blame you because the project is late. And ask for a smaller quote.’

  17. Jessica says:

    omg, wow~ HA! Too funny, and true. I can’t say I’m a provider but I do work with freelancers on VOIS.com yet as a buyer, I can see what you mean about the client’s perspective. I never had that problem but this will definitely teach me to communicate more with the seller firms in the future.

  18. Chris Morata says:

    GREAT article, sir. I think I’ve encountered almost all of these, #2 on my most recent projects. I guess that’s what you can expect sometimes when friends ask you to do their site for them.

  19. Torrey says:

    I’m not a web designer but do computer tech support. However, I run across scenarios 1, 4, & 5 on a regular basis. Very good article.

  20. Deibo says:

    Oh thats very nice post Brian, thank u very much !

  21. Mark says:

    This is not just blogger brownosing or a canned phrase…I really LOVE this post. I have at least heard a variation of all these statements from clients. It always makes me feel so much better to know I am not alone out here. Thank you for the great post.

  22. papercube says:

    I’ve experienced all those and others sure, but not fully aligned with your interpretations. Ultimately when it comes to any product our service you have to deal with clients’ valuation of your work (and sometimes attempted theft of it). It’s legitimate for any business owner to try and negotiate for better terms/economy even when they have buckets of cash, that’s just how the game is played. Your role as salesperson is to demonstrate and evoke the benefit of their working with you over “lesser brands” (watched that whole youtube, thanks lol).

    Ultimately you have the option to scale back product specs, subcontract to a junior agent, decline the project or just suck it up and roll with the punches (which at times we’ve all had to do any number of these)

    For some people cheap crap sites are what they want and it’s the same green you’re getting for reslinging their own mess.

    Where a lot of novices get burned is in doing a lot of spec/comp work and then losing the bid. It’s worthwhile to screen the client first and get your deposits, contracts, agreements ready before submitting anything of tangible effort or asset.

    In most cases the b.s. will walk and the real people will respect your professional approach.

  23. John says:

    Excellent!
    Is there a site these people visit to learn to say these things?
    Google Search – “what to say to a web designer when you don’t want to pay the going rate”
    Maybe it’s just genetically hard-wired?

  24. brianyerkes says:

    Dave, yeah, that’s for sure. It really has to be something you think will be a success and completely trust the person you are dealing with.

    LaurenMarie, thankfully, a majority of clients we work with are nothing but a pleasure to work with. We carefully choose the people and project we agree to take on, and this has helped us to weed out the bad eggs before they can rot all over a project! (haha, nice pun me thinks!)

    Deborah, I’ve seen that a few times. Has only happened once while running my own business, but it happened all the time when I worked for another design company. And the crazy part is that my bosses would actually sign those contracts even with all the scribbles on them from the client!

    Pavlo, haha! That’s great, thanks for sharing.

    Martin, good point. Thanks for your comment.

    Ralev, spot on! I’ve heard those comments many times! Lesson learned to never start working no matter how much they promise the check is in the mail.

    Raphael, haha, good points too. Thanks for your comment

    Jessica, thanks, glad you enjoyed it!

    Chris, yeah, it is tough being a web designer and eventually all of your friends someday need help with something online. You always end up doing it for them. Web designers have a much sought after skill, and unfortunately that is why there are so many cheap programs allowing people to attempt to create them themselves.

    Thanks Torrey and Deibo, glad you both enjoyed it.

    Mark, thanks very much. I tried to make it a fun article with a creative view point. It was well received around the networks so I’m delighted about that.

    Papercube, yeah, screening the client first is one thing that a lot of people seem to forget, especially those just starting out. You don’t need to take on every project that comes your way. Choose wisely.

    John, hahaha! Yeah, it does seem like there is sometimes!

  25. Matus says:

    ” I like it, but could we make one little adjustment? ”

    =)

  26. Joel Hughes says:

    Great post!.
    I just wrote something similar on my blog at:

    http://jhisc.wordpress.com/2009/09/19/5-things-not-to-say-to-a-web-designer-part-1/

    but your #5 really rings true with me!

    Thanks also to Dave Sparks for reminding me of that client vendor video – always makes me laugh out loud :)

    Joel

  27. lol you just nailed it. haha

  28. very funny and so true

  29. Great post. My worst nightmare is when a client says: “can you make it pop!” or “make it a bit more edgy.”

  30. it is true and real things which can happen with us.

    thanks a lot

  31. Tamal Anwar says:

    Hi Brian, I offer wordpress thesis theme design service and so far I have experience a lot of feedback and clients in the short time (1 year)

    a very common thing I experience when they first connect with me, they say “If we are happy with the design, we will have more work for you” -but this rarely happens. And people who have told their friends about my service, didn’t say something like this in the first place.

  32. PaulOnBooks says:

    Ah, the joys of being a web designer. Check out http://www.squidoo.com/web-designer-versus-client for a few of my thoughts (I’m a software engineer btw but I do sympathise).